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Q. Who was the first person you called after you were arrested?
 
A. First person I called after I was arrested was Alan Baer.
 
Q. Why did you call him?
 
A. Well, because in the past whenever I had been arrested 1, 1 mean, I had been picked up by the police, never actually put into jail. He told me if I ever got in trouble with the law to call him. That he would arrange it so I could get out. And so I did. And I never really got ahold of him very well. But another inmate that knew Alan Baer also kept calling him for me. Basically I was wanting to tell him at the time and stuff what I had said a couple of days before about, you know, cause -- the Wednesday before I got arrested he asked me, actually another personality, he didn't know it was, really I think he knew it was me, but he was one of the, going with a guy, supposedly one of my personalities, supposedly my brother, of all things, that he was going to have me get other young kids for his parties. And that we had, I told him, pardon my language, to go F himself and that I'd rather die before I'd do that again. And two days later I end up in jail.
 
Q. Were there any other personalities, not personalities like in yourself but other prominent people at these parties that you particularly remember? You had mentioned one, Alisha mentioned one, a name of Carlson.
 
A. Theodore Carlson, he was a judge in Omaha.
 
Q. He was at these parties?
 
A. He was at a couple of the parties. I think, I believe most of the time I saw him wasn't at parties at the Twin Towers, it was mostly like at I want to say The French Cafe. And, I mean, that's where I'm getting a picture in my head of seeing him at. And down in, I think there's a basement or something, but also up in like a loft or apartment upstairs. But at a lot of the parties I heard enough from other kids about him. And he preferred young girls.
 
Q. Alisha said that and she went to prison for it. Are you telling the truth?
 
A. Yes.
 
Q. The final question Id like to ask you, how does this whole scene, mix you've been involved in for so many years impacted or affected your life or changed your life?
 
A. Totally screwed up my life.
 
Q. Who am I talking to now?
 
A. Paul.
 
Q. Okay. Go ahead.
 
A. For one thing I would have never been arrested for something that, something that I totally find disgusting. I would have never been at NPI, which actually caused me to have to give up my military career. Because i[sic] had planned all my life to join the Army and just spend my whole life in the military. I had spent four years in ROTC in high school and stuff just dreaming of getting in the military and rising up through the ranks and one day being somebody. And then having all that dashed because I was in a psychiatric hospital for something that wasn't even true. And the threats that he's made on my life and stuff is like to this day I'm scared for my family. Not a day goes by that I haven't prayed, asked God to protect my family. Because I know that this man has caused people to be killed. Friend of mine to be killed. He's caused a lot of, I can't even hardly sleep at night, which my wife can tell you that I hardly sleep at night any more. I never have. I mean, I have bad dreams and stuff which I don't even tell her about because it's like I don't want to put her through the same hell I've gone through all my life. It's hard for me to, it was hard for me to have relationships for a long time. I mean, I was afraid that, you know, I'd find somebody I really cared about and loved and stuff, somebody would come along and take them away. It's been hard for me to try and keep a job because of the MPD.
 
Q. MPD meaning?
 
A. Multiple personality disorders. Cause I get work, just like I don't know what happens. I love, I mean, I, I'm a hard worker, I love work and everybody that I work for and stuff just, you know, always has nothing but good to say about me. It's just that I have, I, Ijust quit. I don't know why. And, I mean, it's not a good thing to always have to be looking over your shoulder and stuff to see if somebody's back there and stuff following you. Sometimes I've done that a lot. When I got out of prison I was, I was terrified that they were going to bump me off. I mean, the first night I was out of prison for about a week I was so jumpy, I heard the ceiling creaking on the house and stuff on the trailer I thought there was a sniper up on the roof going to shoot me through the bedroom window. And even for years after that stuff, like every time I went to my car try to turn it on and stuff I always have to look everywhere, look under the seat, look under the car and stuff, make sure there's no bombs under my car. I always have to watch who I was around and stuff because it's like I was always afraid somebody would recognize me. And go into the store and stuff and people recognize you is, and then associate you as being a supposed pedophile or something like that when you know for a fact that you're not. You don't have any attraction for that at all and stuff. And the fact that I've never had any, I mean, I've never done this for, I never put any lawsuits on these people. I never expect to get, I never expected at all to get a penny. I was, it's always like I had planned anything that was ever settlement and stuff even for my portion was going to help kids who were used.


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Q. Who was the first person you called after you were arrested?
 
A. First person I called after I was arrested was Alan Baer.
 
Q. Why did you call him?
 
A. Well, because in the past whenever I had been arrested 1, 1 mean, I had been picked up by the police, never actually put into jail. He told me if I ever got in trouble with the law to call him. That he would arrange it so I could get out. And so I did. And I never really got ahold of him very well. But another inmate that knew Alan Baer also kept calling him for me. Basically I was wanting to tell him at the time and stuff what I had said a couple of days before about, you know, cause -- the Wednesday before I got arrested he asked me, actually another personality, he didn't know it was, really I think he knew it was me, but he was one of the, going with a guy, supposedly one of my personalities, supposedly my brother, of all things, that he was going to have me get other young kids for his parties. And that we had, I told him, pardon my language, to go F himself and that I'd rather die before I'd do that again. And two days later I end up in jail.
 
Q. Were there any other personalities, not personalities like in yourself but other prominent people at these parties that you particularly remember? You had mentioned one, Alisha mentioned one, a name of Carlson.
 
A. Theodore Carlson, he was a judge in Omaha.
 
Q. He was at these parties?
 
A. He was at a couple of the parties. I think, I believe most of the time I saw him wasn't at parties at the Twin Towers, it was mostly like at I want to say The French Cafe. And, I mean, that's where I'm getting a picture in my head of seeing him at. And down in, I think there's a basement or something, but also up in like a loft or apartment upstairs. But at a lot of the parties I heard enough from other kids about him. And he preferred young girls.
 
Q. Alisha said that and she went to prison for it. Are you telling the truth?
 
A. Yes.
 
Q. The final question Id like to ask you, how does this whole scene, mix you've been involved in for so many years impacted or affected your life or changed your life?
 
A. Totally screwed up my life.
 
Q. Who am I talking to now?
 
A. Paul.
 
Q. Okay. Go ahead.
 
A. For one thing I would have never been arrested for something that, something that I totally find disgusting. I would have never been at NPI, which actually caused me to have to give up my military career. Because i[sic] had planned all my life to join the Army and just spend my whole life in the military. I had spent four years in ROTC in high school and stuff just dreaming of getting in the military and rising up through the ranks and one day being somebody. And then having all that dashed because I was in a psychiatric hospital for something that wasn't even true. And the threats that he's made on my life and stuff is like to this day I'm scared for my family. Not a day goes by that I haven't prayed, asked God to protect my family. Because I know that this man has caused people to be killed. Friend of mine to be killed. He's caused a lot of, I can't even hardly sleep at night, which my wife can tell you that I hardly sleep at night any more. I never have. I mean, I have bad dreams and stuff which I don't even tell her about because it's like I don't want to put her through the same hell I've gone through all my life. It's hard for me to, it was hard for me to have relationships for a long time. I mean, I was afraid that, you know, I'd find somebody I really cared about and loved and stuff, somebody would come along and take them away. It's been hard for me to try and keep a job because of the MPD.
 
Q. MPD meaning?
 
A. Multiple personality disorders. Cause I get work, just like I don't know what happens. I love, I mean, I, I'm a hard worker, I love work and everybody that I work for and stuff just, you know, always has nothing but good to say about me. It's just that I have, I, Ijust quit. I don't know why. And, I mean, it's not a good thing to always have to be looking over your shoulder and stuff to see if somebody's back there and stuff following you. Sometimes I've done that a lot. When I got out of prison I was, I was terrified that they were going to bump me off. I mean, the first night I was out of prison for about a week I was so jumpy, I heard the ceiling creaking on the house and stuff on the trailer I thought there was a sniper up on the roof going to shoot me through the bedroom window. And even for years after that stuff, like every time I went to my car try to turn it on and stuff I always have to look everywhere, look under the seat, look under the car and stuff, make sure there's no bombs under my car. I always have to watch who I was around and stuff because it's like I was always afraid somebody would recognize me. And go into the store and stuff and people recognize you is, and then associate you as being a supposed pedophile or something like that when you know for a fact that you're not. You don't have any attraction for that at all and stuff. And the fact that I've never had any, I mean, I've never done this for, I never put any lawsuits on these people. I never expect to get, I never expected at all to get a penny. I was, it's always like I had planned anything that was ever settlement and stuff even for my portion was going to help kids who were used.


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Q. In fact, that's part of the agreement, wasn't it, that I agreed to represent you, that you would donate anything you won or most of what you won to a fund to help kids in your situation?
 
A. Yes.
 
Q. Or abused kids?
 
A. Yes.
 
Q. You understand you signed that, didn't you?
 
A. Yes, I did. Because that's, I never, it was never about money for me, it was about the fact that I wanted to get the truth out. I knew the only way I ever get the truth out is try to get into court. And even when my perjury case came up and they dismissed it, everybody else seemed to be happy for me. But I was, that messed me up because I never got my day in court. I never got a chance to prove that I was telling the truth. And they finally, if I would have gotten that chance and stuff, they knew they had no, the prosecution knew they had no case. They could not get one person to come to court and say the terrible things they got people to say about Alisha. She had too many people that knew her that didn't like her. But me 1, 1 made friends everywhere I went. And the fact that I brought the case, brought this stuff up three years before I ever got arrested.
 
Q. Let me hit on that. One moment. You put into writing your whole story on this, as I recall, before you ever saw a psychiatrist, is that correct?
 
A. Yes, I did.
 
Q. You gave it without ever being under hypnosis?
 
A. Yes.
 
Q. You were hypnotized by the police or the court's psychiatrist after you had told this story, is that correct?
 
A. Yes. It was the police who had Dr. Mead hypnotize me, took me to St. Joe's, the police are the ones that took me to St. Joe's, they're the ones that had the hypnosis planned. It wasn't my choice. I mean, I agreed to it only because I felt that it would probably help me to straighten out some things and stuff. And that hypnosis, to state for the record, only dealt with one person. And one person alone. It had nothing to do with anybody but Peter Citron. He was the only one brought up during this hypnosis at all. It had nothing to do with Larry King, Alan Baer, the police, any priest or anything, had nothing to do with anybody but Peter Citron.
 
Q. And the things in the petition, that we alleged and that you've read repeatedly and you wrote and told us in effect about Peter Citron, they're all true?
 
A. Yes, they are.
 
Q. Peter Citron went to prison, you know, of course, for molesting youth?
 
A. Went to prison after Id already been talking about him doing that stuff to me. And I never had, of all the people who abused me he's the only person I really never, never ended up getting any anger or animosity toward. Because he was, I guess if you could talk about abuse, he was one of the nicest. Of all the people who abused me. He didn't use threats of killing me and wiping me out or everything, continually having me end up like I did a suicide by overdose or pushed out a window or shot to the head.
 
Q. So he was a good abuser?
 
A. He, cant say good abuser, but he didn't, he didn't result, he didn't lower himself to threatening my life like mainly everybody else. Especially Larry King. Who I knew had the money to do it.
 
Q. And Peter Citron and his activities with you were done for his own pleasure rather than ordering you like Larry King did to do this for others, is that correct?
 
A. Yes.
 
Q. Paul, my final question, have I in any way told you what to say here today?
 
A. No.
 
Q. Have I in any way pressured you, coerced you, begged you, told you, suggested anything?
 
A. No.
 
Q. And is everything you're telling us today the truth?
 
A. Absolutely, yes.
 
Q. You realize that people, Alisha Owen for example, went to prison for saying essentially the same things you've said here today?
 
A. Yes, I do.
 
Q. You're still claiming that these are true?
 
A. Yes, I do.
 
Q. Is there anything you want to correct at all that you've said?
 
A. Nothing I want to correct. But there's some other stuff about, like even my relation with my wife and stuff is affected by this because I'm afraid to open up to her. And the fact that I feel like I'm not even a human being any more because, because going to prison and stuff, all my rights been stripped to me just about. And it's, and knowing that none of this, the fact that I would have never gone to prison, I mean, everything my name and my family run through the mud, it would have never happened if it wasn't for the likes of Larry King and the rest of them. Who kept their thumb on me and every time I tried to break free from them they just threatened to kill me or kill my family. It got to the point where it didn't matter about me any more, it's like I've always been more concerned about my family. You know, it's like I know if I die I'm going to heaven so, you know, it don't matter to me. But it's like my family means more to me than anything.


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Q. You're working now?
 
A. I'm working now. I'm working part-time right now but I will be working full time this summer. Finally got a job that's going to be worth something.
 
Q. And you're married now?
 
A. Yes.
 
Q. How long have you been married?
 
A. About two and a half years.
 
Q. You asked me not to ask you any other family questions?
 
A. Yes.
 
Q. Why?
 
A. Safety of my family.
 
MR. DECAMP: I have no further questions, Your Honor.
 
THE COURT: Mr. Bonacci, I have a question or two I'd like to ask you. Did Mr. King, Lawrence E. King, ever sexually abuse you?
 
THE WITNESS: Yes, he did on numerous occasions.
 
THE COURT: How many times would you estimate?
 
THE WITNESS: Probably a couple of hundred. Within all of the different personalities.
 
THE COURT: How old were you at that time?
 
THE WITNESS: Beginning at the time I was approximately 12 or 13 years old. Up until I was about 17 or 18.
 
THE COURT: As I understand it the three doctors who examined you concluded that your multiple personality disorder was a result of sexual abuses entirely or with other things, what was your understanding?
 
THE WITNESS: According to the psychiatrist, the stuff, it was almost exclusively due to the sexual abuse and also the extreme physical abuse that most of these people, most of the guys had abused me with. They, like putting guns up to my head. Had guns put in my mouth. I had, on several occasions Larry King sent out boys to, or not boys, men, to jump me.
 
THE COURT: You mean by that that he, Mr. King, would
 
THE WITNESS: He would order them.
 
THE COURT: -- direct the other men to do that or the other persons to do that?
 
THE WITNESS: Yes, he would direct them to do that. Sometimes, couple of times I was taken to where he was at and he had them pretty well beat the tar out of me from about the waist down so nobody would, my family or nothing would see any marks on my face or anything. He had, there was like two or three guys that he had kick and beating me pretty good. And one time I had my fingers broken by a kid that, a guy they called Larry The Kid. And my family knows about that. But they thought I had a bike accident. But the doctors kept trying to push on it because, push me about it because of the way they were broken. They said there's no way I could have broken it by flipping over the handle bars of my bike, it looked like somebody had grabbed the knuckles and busted them and twisted them. And that was done by, right in front of him.
 
THE COURT: Okay. What other physical injuries can you remember having?
 
THE WITNESS: Excuse me?
 
THE COURT: How many, what other physical injuries can you remember receiving?
 
THE WITNESS: I can remember them burning me with hot instruments. Placing stuff inside of me.
 
THE COURT: Doing what?
 
THE WITNESS: Placing objects inside of me.
 
THE COURT: Objects inside you?
 
THE WITNESS: Such as like a, it was a, I don't know exactly what it was, almost like what I call a cattle prod or something. But it would be put inside then they'd shock me inside of my --
 
THE COURT: Anus?
 
THE WITNESS: Yes. And they would
 
THE COURT: You mean electrically heated?
 
THE WITNESS: It was like they put it in then they would have a button he would push and it would shock me. I hadn't told anybody about that because I've been working through a lot of this getting everything from all the personalities put together, which has taken years. Trying to make it, make any sense.
 
THE COURT: And were those things, the burning and the putting of these hot irons in you, done by Larry King or at his direction?
 
THE WITNESS: At his direction.
 
THE COURT: Did you hear him give the directions?
 
THE WITNESS: Yes.
 
THE COURT: How many times did that kind of thing happen?
 
THE WITNESS: That happened about three or four times. One time I had threatened to, we were in a different -- we weren't in Omaha, we were in, I believe it was California, I threatened to go to the police there.
 
THE COURT: You threatened to what?
 
THE WITNESS: I threatened to go to police in California, thought maybe they would listen whereas in Omaha they were under in his pocket book or something. And I couldn't get out of the car. One other thing he had ordered was we were on an airplane and he had me, or he had me hung out of the airplane with a rope by my ankles.
 
THE COURT: At his direction?
 
THE WITNESS: Yes. That was on the same trip that I threatened to go to the police. He was doing everything he could to make sure that I was quiet about the activities that had taken place.
 
THE COURT: What was your primary duty, according to directions you received from Mr. King?
 
THE WITNESS: It depended on what he needed. A lot, most of the time it was to compromise politicians so he could get whatever he wanted from them. Or whatever somebody, he wanted or that somebody he knew wanted to get. If they wanted to get something passed through the legislature or whatever, he would put some people that were against it in a compromising position. By using us boys and girls.
 
THE COURT: Was this by your being the sexual partner of that person?
 
THE WITNESS: Yes.


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THE COURT: Okay. And or getting some other young person to be a sexual partner?
 
THE WITNESS: Yes.
 
THE COURT: Do you have any estimates of how often you participated as the sexual partner of one of these persons that he wanted to get some kind of control over?
 
THE WITNESS: Kind of hard to say. Because there were times when there would be four or five in a night. And I hardly knew, I didn't know most of them. But on probably a couple of thousand times. Sometimes --
 
THE COURT: Couple thousand times altogether?
 
THE WITNESS: Yeah. Sometimes dozens of times with the same person.
 
THE COURT: How did you finally get out of that practice?
 
THE WITNESS: In 86 when I went to the police I kind of broke away most of it there. By the fact that they, I, by the fact that they knew that I was talking about it. Also I kind of grew out of it because I was getting older. I mean, up until I was probably 17 or 18 years old I, I guess I was a late bloomer, I didn't go through puberty till I was about 18 or 19 years old. I looked like I was probably 13 or 14. And even in my yearbook pictures from as a junior in high school it looks like I'm probably about 13 years old. That's why they were able to use me for so long.
 
THE COURT: How does the fact of your remaining multiple personality disorder affect you now?
 
THE WITNESS: It affects me a lot. Especially like in work. It's sometimes hard for me to keep a job now. It's affecting my relationship with my wife big time. Because there are times when I know she's talked to other different personalities and stuff because, you know, it's affected me, I can go off the handle a little bit easy. I mean, I'm not really too physically violent but I'm more verbally violent. I don I know why I do things I do. I find that some of the things that used to be very easy for me do and stuff are difficult. And then the worst part is probably the flashbacks. Because there's still times and stuff where there's stuff I don't even know happened that will flood my mind and I can't get it off my mind for sometimes weeks at a time. III just kind of go into a moping period where it's like I'm trying to, I'm just working through it trying to see if I can even believe it myself. Because some of the things seem so outrageous. But I've come, I've come to figure out how to tell what's real, you know, the real memories from things that were placed in there on purpose to try and discredit me.
 
THE COURT: During your waking hours, when you're not asleep, do you find yourself sometimes moving into different personalities whether you're at work or otherwise?
 
THE WITNESS: Yes, I do.
 
THE COURT: Are those any of the personalities, I think I heard you say a while ago that now you think you don't experience personalities that are destructive to you, is that a fair statement?
 
THE WITNESS: No, I don't. The only person that I know that I have left is Wesley. He's not destructive at all. He's more of a making sure that nothing ever goes wrong.
 


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