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RE: The Thule Society

We are not informed as to just how Weishaupt became associated
with Adolph Franz Friedrich Ludwid Baron Von Knigge, for the latter
lived in North Germany, was of the nobility, and, after his initiation
in 1773, showed little interest in Freemasonry. But noblemen were found
in abundance in the most fraudulent orders in Germany claiming some
Masonic connections. Weishaupt, in 1780, dispatched the Marquis de
Costanzo to propagate Illuminism in the north and Knigge probably then
first showed interest in the society. He became more and more
enthusiastic as the plan was revealed to him, and, in 1781, accepted
the invitation to visit Bavaria and receive full access to all of
Weishaupt's materials. Knigge not only completed the scale of degrees
but became a proponent of them, bringing to his aid the assistance of
Johann J. C. Bode, a prominent German Mason. The order was at first
very popular and attracted, it is said, some of the best men in Germany
and some of the worst. It had 2000 names on its rolls and spread to
France, Belgium, Holland, Denamrk, Sweden, Poland, Hungary, and Italy.
Knigge, especially, was a highly religious and intellectual man and
would have had nothing to do with that or any other order which was
anti-Christian, yet, the vicious attacks and accusations by Baruel and
Robison had great influence, and it was even charged that the
Illuminati were themselves agents of the Jesuits, though the latter
were opposing it in their usual secret manner. The Illuminati were
extremely secretive, even identifying themselves and their chapters by
assumed classical names; for examples, Weishaupt was Spartacus, Knigge
was Philo, Ingolstadt, the headquarters, was Eleusis, Austria was
Egypt, etc. Dates were given in a sort of cryptography.

The ceremonies were divided into three principal classes and those
into degrees as follows: I-The Nursery: 1. Preparatory Literary Essay;
2. Novitiate; 3. Minerval; 4. Minor Illuminatus; 5. Magistratus.
II-Symbolic Freemasonry: 1. Apprentice; 2. Fellow Craft; 3. Master; 4.
(a) Scots Major Illuminatus, (b) Scots Illuminatus Dirigens
(Directory). III-Mysteries; 1. Lesser: (a) Presbyter, Priest, or Epopt,
(b) Prince or Regent; Greater: (a) Magus; (b) Rex or King (some of
these latter degrees were never completed).

The Illuminati were finally beset by both internal and external
disorders, for Weishaupt found fault with some of Knigge's ritualistic
work and peremptorily ordered it changed, whereupon, Knigge became
disgusted and resigned in 1784. The Jesuits had fought it from the
first and eventually all priests became its active enemies and raised
so much opposition that the Elector of Bavaria supressed the Order by
edict, June 22, 1784, many Illuminati being imprisoned and some,
including Weishaupt, being forced to flee the country. Though the first
edict had been obeyed, it was repeated in March and August, 1785. Not
only Illuminism, but Freemasonry was exterminated in Bavaria and
neither ever recovered its former position. The Illuminati seem to have
completely disappeared everywhere by the end of the 18th century.


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"Bavarian Illuminati FAQ, Ver 1.2"
> - Peter Trei's FAQ Ver 1.2, without Peter Trei's
> remarks on the Illuminatus! Trilogy.

There was a very specific, symbolic reason I left out the portion of the
Illuminatus! Trilogy; but since I've been misread I'll clarify. The grades
of the Order of Perfectibilists as given by Henry Wilson Coil are skew. He
was after all a Master Mason loyal to England. Adam Weishaupt's Illuminati
grade structure was Antient and Primitive of the Orient. That's just not
good English to most. The grades while symbolic mimed Craft Lodge degrees
but segmented the degrees as three seeming separate Orders, much like
present day "Thelemic" Roseæ Rubeæ et Aureæ Crucis; in point of fact they
are identical. The three departments of Order of the Illuminati were to
letter of Abraham's and Moses' law, symbolically, the three veils of
existence of the QBLH.

You'll notice that unlike orthodox Catholic metaphysics, in the Illuminati
it was advocated to transcend Oversoul. Continuity in consciousness after
physical death and immortality isn't possible otherwise. Unfortunately the
only extant Order that has it within its power to restore the Order of
Perfectibilists is Caliphate Ordo Templi Orientis, but the current
are partial to the Roman Catholic Church. Their X° is Adam Weishaupt's
V°! The Illuminati didn't have a X°, in part because Adam Weishaupt was
a learned alchemist and philosopher. The Illuminati's IX° was Royal
Director, as opposed to an extinct fool, being what Aleister Crowley
attempted to restore in his A.'.A.'./O.T.O./M.'.M.'.M.'. with his Baphomet
doctrine: the Union of Oversoul with the Cosmic Logos. Caliphate Ordo
Templi Orientis' present day's IX° makes use of terrestrial sexual
for union. Their X° being Rome's Pan and Oversoul, or Egypt's Atum-Ra.

Times -- they sure don't change.

Order of Perfectibilists

Der Aufbau des Ordens
(The Structure of the Medal)

Der orden bearbeitete in drei abteilungen folgende grad:
(The medal worked on the following degrees in three departments)

1. Klasse: Pflanzenschule (1.- 2. Grad)
(Class: Plant School (1.- 2nd Degrees))

I°. Novize

II°. Minerval

2. Klasse: Symbolische Maurerei (3.- 5. Grad)
(Class: Symbolic Bricklaying (3.- 5th Degrees))

III°. Illuminatus Minor

IV°. Illuminatus Major
[Schottischer Novize]
(Scottish Novice)

V°. Illuminatus Dirigens (Illuminatus Guide)
[Schottischer Ritter] (Scottish Knight)

3. Klasse: Mystische Maurerei (6.- 9. Grad)
(Class: Mystic Bricklaying (6.- 9th Degrees)

VI°. Illuminatus Prister (Illuminatus Priest)

VII°. Regent oder Prinz Illuminat (Regent or Prince Illuminate)

VIII°. Magnus Philosophischer (Great Philosopher)

IX°. (Königlicher Directus) (Royal Director)


Frater E.K.O.


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Hitler, German Nazi Beliefs and Tibet

From Der Fuehrer by KonradHeiden, connection with Buddhism...connects nazis with far distant lands... german national leagues in Austria wore the swastika as their insigna decades before nazis... official emblem of Finland and Estonia... German Free Corps who fought in 1918 in Baltic against bolsheviks brought it back to germany...A former GFC captain, Erhardt, chased the Reich gov. out of Berlin in 1920...His troops wore the swastika on their tin hats...after they were defeated, many fled to Munich, where Rohm enrolled them in Hitler's SA... They brought the swastika to Hitler...the printer turned spidery lines into bold lines... at its debut, Hitler was "surprised and pleased" at its inflammatory effect...

PBS TV ran a show titled something like "The search for the holy grail. In the show they cover the Nazi expedition to Tibet in the late 1930s.

Back in 1912, several German occultists with radical anti-semitic inclinations decided to form a "magic" lodge, which they named the Order of Teutons. the main founders were Theodor Fritsch, a publisher of an anti-semitic journal; Philipp Stauff, pupil of the racist Guido Von List, and Hermann Pohl, the order's chancellor. (Pohl would drop out three years later to found his own bizarre lodge, the 'Walvater Teutonic Order of the Holy Grail'.)

The Order of Teutons was organized along the lines of the Free Masons or the Rosicrucians, having differing degrees of initiation, only persons who could fully document that they were of pure "aryan" ancestry were allowed to join.

In 1915, Pohl was joined by Rudolf Blauer, who held a Turkish passport and practiced sufi meditation. He also dabbled in astrology and was an admirer of Lanz Von Liebenfels and Guido Von List, both pathologically anti-semitic. Blauer went by the name of Rudolf Freiherr Von Seboottendorf. He was very wealthy, although the origin of his fortune is unknown. He became the Grand Master of the Bavarian Order and he founded the Thule Society, with Pohl's approval, in 1918.


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After the Bavarian communist revolution of 1918, the Thule Society became a center of the counterrevolutionary subculture. An espionage network and arms caches were organized. The Thule Club rooms became a nest of resistance to the revolution and the Munich Soviet Republic.

Journalist Karl Harrer was given the job of founding a political "worker circle". He realized that the workers would reject any program that was presented to them by a member of the conservative "privileged" class. Harrer knew that the mechanic Anton Drexler, who was working for the railroads, was a well-known anti-semite, chauvinist and proletarian. With drexler as nominal chairman, Harrer founded the German Workers Party in January 1919

The German Workers Party was only one of many associations founded and controlled by the Thule Society. The Thule was the "mother" to the German Socialist Party, led by Julius Streicher, and the right-wing radical Oberland Free Corps. It published the Munich observer, which later became the National Observer. Hitler became the most prominent personality in the party. He caused Harrer to drop out, and he pushed Drexler, the nominal chairman, to the sidelines. He filled key positions with his own friends from the Thule Society and the Army. During the summer of 1920, upon his suggestion, the party was renamed the National Socialist German Worker Party (NASDAP). The new name was intended to equally attract nationalists and proletarians.

To go along with the new name his mass movement also required a flag with a powerful symbol. Among many designs under consideration, Hitler picked the one suggested by Thule member Dr. Krohn: a red cloth with a white circle in the middle containing a black swastika.


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Hitler wanted to turn the German Workers Party into a mass-conscious fighting party, but Harrer and Drexler were hesitant, due in part to their woeful financial situation. The Thule Society was not yet supplying very much money and no one seemed to know how to build up a mass party. Hitler arranged two public meetings in obscure beer halls, and he drafted leaflets and posters, but there was no real breakthrough.

All of this changed dramatically at the end of the 1919 when Hitler met Dietrich Eckart. Most biographers have underestimated the influence that Eckart exerted on Hitler. He was the wealthy publisher and editor-in-chief of an anti-semitic journal which he called In Plain German. Eckart was also a committed occultist and a master of magic. As an initiate, Eckart belonged to the inner circle of the Thule Society as well as other esoteric orders.

Briefly, the creed of the Thule Society inner circle is as follows: Thule was a legendary island in the far north, similar to Atlantis, supposedly the center of a lost, high-level civilization. But not all secrets of that civilization had been completely wiped out. Those that remained were being guarded by ancient, highly intelligent beings (similar to the "Masters" of Theosophy or the White Brotherhood). The truly initiated could establish contact with these beings by means of magic-mystical rituals. The "Masters" or "Ancients" allegedly would be able to endow the initiated with supernatural strength and energy. With the help of these energies the goal of the initiated was to create a race of Supermen of "Aryan" stock who would exterminate all "inferior" races.

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