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RE: The Finders Cult

Christopher Bird, former CIA officer who served in Japan and a psych warfare
specialist in the Army, and author of New Age and occult books has also been
associated with Pettie. Bird wrote The Secret Life of Plants with Peter
Tompkins, New York: Avon, 1974, Tompkins wrote on new age subjects like the
pyramids, and once served in the OSS (now anti-CIA).

Pettie's activities took a different turn in 1979 when he recruited John J.
Cox. founder of general Scientific (a computer firm specializing in classified
defense, contracts). Cox trained several of Pettie's Finders in computer
programming and communications technologies and took two or more Of them to
Costa Rica and Panama in 1980-81. Cox worked through Miguel Barzuna, a
prominent Costa Rican money launderer, the Vienna, Virginia-based Institute
for International Development and Cuban exile Emilio Rivera in Costa Rica and
Panama. Through Cox, Pettie and the Finders linked up with several Washington
area computer-oriented groups, including Community Computers, a front
organziation[sic] for The Community, a cult run by Michael Rios (aka Michael
Versacc). (Pettie's son, David Pettie, is a member of the Community, Pettie's
other son, George, may be the one who was in Air America) Cox also recruited
Theordore[sic] G. reiss (wife; Ann), 4 reston-based computer programmer and
highly active member of Werner Erhard Seminars (EST). Cox also recruited Susan
Gabriel and Judith Beltz as couriers. Pettie and Cox have simulated a failing
out and pretend to be enemies...

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The Finders and Patch Adams

Kenn Thomas
Tue, 22 Dec 1998 14:51:43 -0500

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> 1. There is a new issie of Steamshovel, #16 and chock full of nuggets. An
> excellant interview with the founder of THE FINDERS and many other fine
> articles on all our favorutes. Go out and find.

Thanks for the recommend!

Here's some info on the Finders that does not appear in the issue. (CTRL reaers
unfamiliar with the Finders should know that the group has been accused of being
the pedophilic procurers for the intelligence community in DC. The groupd denies
the charge but does cop to the story that they had children in attendance at a did
a ritual goat sacrifice.):

Marion Pettie is not alone in his defense of the Finder's philosophy on
self-governing child rearing. No less unusual source than Patch Adams, the
maverick psychologist who became the subject of a 1998 Robin Williams movie
directed by Tom Shadyac, talked at length about it. Adams has been a friend of the
Finders for 25 years, working almost as the group's personal physician. An
unconventional and controversial figure in the medical world himself, Adams
affirmed that he has found no instance of child abuse among the Finders. He
dismissed the notion that the group included pedophiles and characterized it
instead as one of "over-educated" eccentrics presenting an alternative to social
norms. Adams told a reporter at the Rappahannock News that "I'm embarrassed for
the news media . They really made a mistake here. I can see a giant legal case
coming out of this."
Of the pedophilia charges, Adams said, "That's a bunch of crap!" , noting that boy
and girl scout camps contain the same rings of stone Washington police found in
the backyard of the Finders' Washington residence. "What other evidence have they
uncovered? Ritual blood-letting?" Of the goat slaughter, he added, "On the farm
it's called harvest. It's animal husbandry, a practice thirteen thousand years
old. Farmers traditionally include their children, particularly their male
children in the annual fall butchering of livestock. I've met city people who
think milk comes from a carton. Urbanites are often ignorant of the realities of
food production."
Adams described the Tallahssee bust this way: "When you have two adults taking
six small children on a camping trip, they are going to get dirty. If they're not
dirty, then the adults in charge either unbelievably organized or they haven't
been camping. As for bug bites, if you're camping, particularly in the south,
you're going to get bug bites. I just can't imagine the Finders tolerating sexual
abuse. If it should turn out that a child has been abused, it's a private problem
with a member of the organization with the organization unaware of that problem."
The iconoclastic Patch Adams gave this view of the Finders' philosophy:
"Marion Pettie [is a] very intelligent, extremely well-read, a perceptive thinker
who gathered around him over-educated people who find current society, as I do,
not very interesting. They dropped out of whatever it was they were doing to play
games under Pettie's direction. The anthropological, psychological, sociological
game of life with each other. Never to my knowledge have they done drugs of any
kind. They like playing games, more in their heads than in their hearts. This is
not Scientology. I know lots of Finders who have left. We get together. We laugh
and joke about it. They're probably laughing about all this right now. Marion
Pettie is not an angel. He's not a devil. He's a regular person, unless a regular
person is someone who is bored with his job, his life and is dissatisfied with his
life. If that's the definition, then I guess he's not a regular person."
Adams concluded that "Their way of child-rearing isn't mine. Yes, they're
strange. Yes, they're maybe misguided, but there are a lot of other kinds of
neglect out there. If their children have been neglected, it wasn't meant to be
neglect. They mean to give their children enriching experiences. This could be a
lesson of survival. If you wanted to show our society it is messed up, this
certainly will do it. "


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A Freethinkers' Haven Grows in--Culpeper?

Kristin K. Nauth

In one of the most conservative towns in Virginia, a female skeptic is launching a "live-in/live-out think tank" for secularists of all stripes. Only those with a good sense of humor need apply, though.

Seventy miles south of Washington, DC, is the town of Culpeper, Virginia, a pretty little burg of 10,000 with views of the Blue Ridge Mountains. Culpeper is the sort of place where your social circle is defined by which of the 30-odd Christian churches you belong to, the tallest edifice in town is the Southern Baptist steeple, and the Wal-Mart parking lot is full at 11pm on a Saturday night. George Washington surveyed the town's limits in 1749--and, according to a local joke, that's the last interesting thing that happened here.

The solid, red-brick corner house at 409 Macoy Avenue seems transplanted from another planet. On a block of crewcut lawns and military-corner boxwoods, this yard is veiled by a scrim of soaring, lacy bamboo. Cross the front porch and the first thing you spot is a quote by Emma Goldman on the front door: "Atheism is the eternal yea to life, purpose, and beauty." Well, that's a breath of fresh air; this town was starting to make you feel a little paranoid. Then you notice there's no doorbell, only a large Chinese gong, which makes a sonorous clang when you tentatively tap it with the drumstick hanging nearby.


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And the smiling blonde woman who opens the front door looks far less like the natives you've met than like a young Swedish university professor. Which, it turns out, she is. Introducing herself as Merrie Shaker Pettie, female skeptic, she explains in softly accented but fluent English that she arrived two years ago from Stockholm, where she worked as a lecturer in philosophy. Her father was American, and she moved here when a relative bequeathed her this house.

Inside, the house has the same zen/zany elegance as outside. It's nothing less than a live-in library, with bookshelves lining every wall including the kitchen and bedrooms. A large globe hangs from the living room ceiling. Upstairs, there's a photo of two horses having sex. Out back is a hot tub, while two large Southern-style screen porches are set up as lounges looking out on the bamboo grove.

And more quotes. On a kitchen shelf, "I believe in God, only I spell it Nature--Frank Lloyd Wright." Next to the sofa, "There is nothing stable in the world; uproar's your only music.--John Keats." Nietzsche is in there somewhere.
A Laboratory for Living Well

Pettie, 42, is launching a unique clubhouse--she calls it a social laboratory--for freethinkers. After she gives you the grand tour, curled up over steaming cups of tea in the cozy Biographies section, you ask her to clarify.

"It's a global, live-in or live-out, mutual aid society for experimenting with how to live well in a godless world." Sounds good. Who's invited? She rattles off: "Skeptics, free inquirers, perspectivists, agnostics, Franklinites, infidels, eupraxsophists, sinners, secularists, postconventionals, and other persons with a good sense of humor--a/k/a perspective."


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Freethinkers who meet these stern criteria can tap into the network to help solve their problems, find partners or jump-start their visions, according to Pettie. Just hanging out and enjoying the laissez-faire ambience is an option, too. But primarily it's a problem-solving center to help skeptics advance their projects. Pettie describes her role as helping skeptics find whatever they need, be it brainstorming, visioneering, like-minded allies or incubation for an idea--including, in some cases, helping deserving entrepreneurs to connect with "angels" (private investors) to back their projects.

"It's kind of a drop-in think tank, where you can live in or out, and stay a day or a year," she sums up. "It's both an oasis for the present and an incubator for the future." And skepticism is unquestionably humanity's future, Pettie contends.

At the nucleus of this rather mind-bending vision are Pettie and her five-bedroom house, which serves as clubhouse, guesthouse, office and incubator. She says there's an associated dacha, or country house, about a half-hour away in the Blue Ridge foothills which can be used for group or solo retreats.

Like Gora's Positive Atheism and multiple other variations, the brand of secularism practiced here is inherently proactive. "Sooner or later, people will accept that no deus ex machina is going to swoop down and save the world, that it's incumbent on humans to build a heaven on earth," Pettie says. The purpose of the live-in lab is to support this proactive, practical view of skepticism.

"I don't have any particular answers. Just a question: how can we help you?" she says.

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